"a place where there's nothing to do but try to figure out how you can make work that may not work. It can fail, it can be ugly, and everyone is going to look at it and think about it..."
"even though i had
plenty of formal training, 

my real education began
when i started creating
on my own..."
"the artist must have the patience of water
that eats away the rock drop by drop..." 
"don't be so sure of what you're doing..."
"create self-initiated public projects that
aren't intended for a commercial context..."

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